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Re: Not Japanese, no entry

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:39 am
by RetireJapan
cocacola wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:16 am Several months ago, I was walking to my local grocer, where there is a bus stop situated right in front of it. As I was walking, I noticed a long line of, what appeared to be, Chinese men, filing out of the bus, led by an Asian woman (she was probably Chinese, too). I know I am profiling, too, but we all do it, so cut me some slack! Anyway, it wasn't the fact that they were Chinese that caught my attention. It was because they were walking all in single-file, and they appeared to be between mid-20's and 30's. All quite fit, tall. All men. None of them carried any bags, backpacks, luggage. It just seemed odd... usually, for a tour group, you'd see a mix of different people-types, and you could really tell that they are tourists. This situation was strange.
Sounds like a group of workers from that description (Chinese or otherwise).

Re: Not Japanese, no entry

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:44 am
by RetireJapan
Tsumitate Wrestler wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:48 am Not everyone has the personality to "speak to the manager" on the spot. Though I certainly respect those who can channel their inner Karen for the good of all. :)

I think I would complain vocally, and perhaps even leave a public facing negative reviews that described the experience from a purely factual basis (to avoid slander). I would also be messaging the Mainichi or similar.
True, but I am only saying what I would do. It's not a prescription for others.

The reason it is important to speak to someone responsible is because often the customer/public facing person does not have any freedom of action: they are either following policy or they have misunderstood the policy. The 責任者 is able to explain and take responsibility for the policy.

So instead of complaining or arguing with the person at the door, much better to just politely ask to speak to the person in charge and get the real story.

Re: Not Japanese, no entry

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:10 am
by cocacola
RetireJapan wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:39 am Sounds like a group of workers from that description (Chinese or otherwise).
Hmm, could be. Maybe I am just turning into a suspicious-of-everything oyaji.

Re: Not Japanese, no entry

Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 12:35 am
by ToushiTime
adamu wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 2:32 pm Doesn't happen often, but did today when I tried to board a Japanese Maritime Self-Defence Force ship that was open to the public. A bit miffed, to be honest.

At the time I just said "oh, okay," and left, but I wish I'd have pushed back a bit more. Probably not a good idea to pick a fight with them though 😂 Still they were completely judging by appearance. Who knows how many Japanese-looking non-Japanese people they let through. I'm not going to naturalise just to be smug in situations like that, but does make you think...

Anyway, just venting. And wondering if it is actually the policy or just an over-vigilant steward.
I just noticed this topic, and I remembered reading the BBC article below about Chinese tourists being denied entry to a German military plane.
Or course, your country and Japan are allies, so make of this what you will.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-68400121

Re: Not Japanese, no entry

Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 7:04 am
by TunaSki
ToushiTime wrote: Fri May 03, 2024 12:35 am
adamu wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 2:32 pm Doesn't happen often, but did today when I tried to board a Japanese Maritime Self-Defence Force ship that was open to the public. A bit miffed, to be honest.

At the time I just said "oh, okay," and left, but I wish I'd have pushed back a bit more. Probably not a good idea to pick a fight with them though 😂 Still they were completely judging by appearance. Who knows how many Japanese-looking non-Japanese people they let through. I'm not going to naturalise just to be smug in situations like that, but does make you think...

Anyway, just venting. And wondering if it is actually the policy or just an over-vigilant steward.
I just noticed this topic, and I remembered reading the BBC article below about Chinese tourists being denied entry to a German military plane.
Or course, your country and Japan are allies, so make of this what you will.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-68400121
Meanwhile, in China: https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna30499876