Investing in stocks through Interactive Brokers

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Investing in stocks through Interactive Brokers

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Hello all,

I have opened my Interactive Brokers (IB) account in Japan and am looking to invest in ETF's/Indexes. I am a British citizen but that does not seem to allow me to invest in British options such as Vanguard etc. I have emailed the company and they said because I am based in Japan this is not possible.

I was wondering if anyone had any good options regarding IB because at the moment all I can see are stocks which are more risky.

A further question is if and when I choose to leave Japan, does anyone know the system by which I transfer my account to a new country? From what I have seen and read, Japan is a master of red tape and bureaucracy and I would like to avoid as much of this as possible.

Any support would be greatly appreciated.

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Hi Lucas

You should be able to buy ETFs through IB Japan.

My understanding is that they may be able to transfer common stocks/ETFs to IB in another country. Probably best to confirm with them directly though.
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I don't have experience with IB but Firstrade lets its international customers buy pretty much any ETF you like (even the new Vanguard factor ETFs and active ETFs which are not available yet in Japan) so it might be worthwhile to check out Firstrade if IB Japan has some kind of legal restrictions.
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LucasVi91 wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 6:00 am...does not seem to allow me to invest in British options such as Vanguard etc. I have emailed the company and they said because I am based in Japan this is not possible.
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Are you trying for the British version of vanguard ETFs (assuming there is one), or the US?

Eg, ask if you can buy VOO.
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LucasVi91 wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 6:00 am I have opened my Interactive Brokers (IB) account in Japan and am looking to invest in ETF's/Indexes. I am a British citizen
I think the Japanese online brokers (SBI/Rakuten/Monex) are better for that.

https://retirewiki.jp/wiki/Japanese_global_index_funds
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adamu wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 9:58 am
LucasVi91 wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 6:00 am I have opened my Interactive Brokers (IB) account in Japan and am looking to invest in ETF's/Indexes. I am a British citizen
I think the Japanese online brokers (SBI/Rakuten/Monex) are better for that.

https://retirewiki.jp/wiki/Japanese_global_index_funds
For the core index holdings, the low cost mutual funds offered by the Japanese online brokers are definitely the better deal.

However, the US ETFs still have much lower costs if for some reason you wish to track more skewed indexes with ETFs such as Vanguard's VYM (ER 0.06% Yield 2.727%) which tracks the FTSE® High Dividend Yield Index or VSS (ER 0.08% Yield 4.516%) which tracks the FTSE Global ex US Small Cap Index so imho using a non-Japanese online broker such as IB or Firstrade can be useful for fine tuning your portfolio. I am currently in the process of opening a NISA account at Monex and intend to buy the eMAXIS Slim All Country mutual fund (ER 0.05775%) as my core equity holding, but am considering getting small cap US stocks exposure which the eMAXIS Slim All Country misses out on by having a small trache of the AVUV Avantis U.S. Small Cap Value ETF (ER 0.25%) at Firstrade (since AVUV is not available at a Japanese online broker).

Having said that, Japanese online brokers do sell some of the more specialized Vanguard ETFs such as VYM so I guess it's a case by case decision depending on whether you want DRIP or not, whether your trade is large enough to offset the trading costs that Japanese brokers charge, and whether currency conversion fees that you'd need to pay if you invest at a non-Japanese broker is acceptable since Japanese brokers like SBI and Rakuten and Matsui now allow zero commission currency conversion between yen and US dollars if you convert the money prior to trading.
https://shintaro-money.com/free-foreign-exchangefee/
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ChapInTokyo wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 2:18 am
adamu wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 9:58 am
LucasVi91 wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 6:00 am I have opened my Interactive Brokers (IB) account in Japan and am looking to invest in ETF's/Indexes. I am a British citizen
I think the Japanese online brokers (SBI/Rakuten/Monex) are better for that.

https://retirewiki.jp/wiki/Japanese_global_index_funds
For the core index holdings, the low cost mutual funds offered by the Japanese online brokers are definitely the better deal.

However, the US ETFs still have much lower costs if for some reason you wish to track more skewed indexes with ETFs such as Vanguard's VYM (ER 0.06% Yield 2.727%) which tracks the FTSE® High Dividend Yield Index or VSS (ER 0.08% Yield 4.516%) which tracks the FTSE Global ex US Small Cap Index so imho using a non-Japanese online broker such as IB or Firstrade can be useful for fine tuning your portfolio. I am currently in the process of opening a NISA account at Monex and intend to buy the eMAXIS Slim All Country mutual fund (ER 0.05775%) as my core equity holding, but am considering getting small cap US stocks exposure (which the eMAXIS Slim All Country misses out on) by having a small trache of AVUV Avantis U.S. Small Cap Value ETF (ER 0.25%) at Firstrade (since AVUV is not available at a Japanese online broker).

Having said that, Japanese online brokers do sell some of the more specialized Vanguard ETFs such as VYM so I guess it's a case by case decision depending on whether you want DRIP or not, whether your trade is large enough to offset the trading costs that Japanese brokers charge, and whether currency conversion fees that you'd need to pay if you invest at a non-Japanese broker is acceptable since Japanese brokers like SBI and Rakuten and Matsui now allow zero commission currency conversion between yen and US dollars if you convert the money prior to trading.
https://shintaro-money.com/free-foreign-exchangefee/
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